I also have the t-2D gimbal from tarot. The version no says in the program 'xxxx' instead of 1.3. I'm on mobile so I can't give the link right now. I did get the software for the 2d gimbal tho. Go to hobby king site, search for mobius gimbal (it uses the tarot gimbal controller), scroll to the bottom and under the files tab, download the doc. Open it in word and it should have the link to the software.
Today I’m writting about a nice add on for the “cheap” DJI Phantom quadrocopter, which allows for getting pretty stable Aerial footage with a GoPro 3. I’m not going to write about the DJI Phantom in this blog, as I mainly want to keep it technical on how to configure a Tarot T-2D 2 axis brushless gimbal for Position Mode pitch control with a Naza Controller. Working on the electronics of your DJI Phantom, gimbal and every other part might leave you with a non working product. The description bellow only describes on how I Setup These parts for my self. I will not be responsible if you mess up anyting or your Phantom falls from the sky;0) The T-2D also gots a Rate Mode, but this one is not as usefull to most People. Rate Mode will not stop the pitch movement if you stop the controll unit on defined Position on your remote. So you will always have to return to the center Position of your control unit to stop it from moving.
And turning it way back to get the camera back up. Stopping the movement again with Setting the controll to the Center Position. This might be usefull if you use stick, which will always return to Center Position if you release it. But without fpv (remote camera control) you will never know what angle the camera is set to. So this is why I prefer the Position Mode. If i turn the button on the remote (channel 7) to a specifi Position the camera will always rest at the same angle.
This allows me to better control camera movement. So how to configure the T-2D pitch control to get it work in Position control? It’s not that hard at all! You will need to get 3 wired Connections. You can use standard servo cables, or you can crimp your own ones. This is for Firmware 1.1 and 1.2.
It seems you can skip the cable C to F1 if you are using firmware 1.3 or greater. I’m running 1.4 the way as described bellow without any problems. But I was just to lazy to remove that cable yet. Jeremy Nichols was stuck in rate mode by using 3 wires and a firmware higher then 1.3.
So if you use one of the latest firmware releases then skip the C to F1 cable mentioned bellow. If your gimbal is doing strange movement after upgrading to 1.4 you might need to recalibrate it. Follow the steps in the manual or just watch the following Youtube clip 😉. C will need to go to F1 bottom (signal) (you can skip this cable if you just want Rate Mode or using a Tarot T-2D firmware higher then 1.3. T will need to go to F2 bottom (signal). (-) will Need to go to a – (use the one in the Center row so you can use the other one to power your GoPro straight from the T-2D gimbal board) Now you will also need to change some Settings in the Naza control Software. These Settings might need to be slightly different on your Setup, depending on how you set the Parameters in the ZYX-BMGC-EN V1.0.exe Software, which you will need to Change Parameters on the gimbal board.
I set the gimbal for a max of 90 degrees movement. So it will never turn up to the Rotors or backwards. My Naza Settings are: Servo Travel Limit Pitch F2 Max 1000, Center 0, Min -1000 Roll F1, Max 50, Center 50, Min 0 Automatic Control Gain Pitch F2, 0.00 Roll F1, 0.00 Manual Control Speed Pitch X1, 10 When everything is setup like this, the gimbal should behave like in the Video bellow. So this is it. Not much Magic at all.
Oh, and one more tip ^^ If you fix your Tarot T-2D Gimbal straight to the DJI Phantom housing, then the gimbal will hang slightly to low. Instead of buying some different landing gears i just placed some cheap 5mm plastic nuts between the landing gear and the housing. If doing so you will also need some longer screws to screw the landing gear back on.
M3, 10mm worked great for me. A couple of days ago I shot a little test clip to see how the Tarot T-2D gimbal performs. Please click like on Youtube if you enjoyed it;o) from on. There are many more clips in my. Hello Mathias, First of all, enjoy your vacations 😉 then big thanks for this tutorial and the time you needed to make it.I’m 100% newbie and just get my Phantom 1 month agoi would like to buy a Tarot T-2D TL68A00 like you, but i’m afraid that i won’t be able to install it an program it ): I’ve searched around during many hours i found no tutorial about that.What i mean is a tutorial from scratch to install it on the PhantomMay i ask you, if you know one? Or if you planned to make your own when you will be back?
Thank you so so muchFabien from France. Hello Fabien The Tarrot T-2D gimbal comes about 80% preassembled. You just need to build a few parts together. If you ever build a Ikea furniture, then this will be an easy task for you ^^ Just take a look at the plan, think about it for a Minute or two and you should be fine.
I first made the mistake by thinking the design is like others where the gimbal hangs on the bumpers. But actually ist much smarter, using the bumpers with pressure from the top plate above. If you want to mount the gimbal directly on the Phantom, then you’ll need to drill 4 holes in the body.
Take your time and double check what you are doing, so you are not drilling any electronice inside 😉 Thightning the screws with this method is also a bit tricky, but doable. If you want a easy way to mount and dismount the gimbal, then just buy one of the many available adapterplates in the Internet. This way you can mount it to the two stock fixture Points. If you use a adapterplate the overall build height is taller, so you will need to raise the legs a bit further, compared with the fix to Body solution.
Hope this helps. Hello Ian B Yes, you can power a GoPro from the mentioned ports. But there’s a slight problem with the GoPro Hero3 Black yet. If you use a Black, you will need to leave the battery in the GoPro or the cam will not power up.
Once it is on, it will pull the power from the supplied powerchain of the gimbal. You can pull out the battery of a GoPro Hero3 White or Silver. These cams will boot up with just an external power source. So this way you can save weight on the camera. Maybe GoPro will fix the behavior of the Black in a future firmware update. But we will need to wait and see what the future brings. Mathias, Thank you so so much for your time and your great explanation.I read inside your mind where you wasn’t herei bought a plate from ebay to install the gimbal more easily.
BTWi was more afraid about the connection to my FUtaba t8jsome people are connecting it through the RX and others to the Nazai am lostall i would like to do is the best smooth gimbal that it is possiblethis is why i though it was a good idea to connect the “R” rollthat some people use from their stickbut once again, is it connected to the Naza or to the RX to do that??? Hi, I have managed to get my pitch working for the dji phantom using the tarot gimbal. However recently it stopped working. If I connect a 3S supply to the gimbal no lights turn on at all. If I connect BOTH the 3S power supply to the gimbal and also connect the pins on the gimbal control board to the naza in the Phantom and power on the phantom, only then does the lights on the gimbal turn on. I do get the initilization light and then get a blinking blue light with a solid green light. Is there anything that I can do to fix this problem because the gimbal isn’t moving.
I have looked at the manual and it says a solid green light is over current problem but I am still using the exact same setup and 3S supply as before. Its says after troubleshooting, reapply power can recover.
Does anyone know what the troublshooting procedure is? I will really really appreciate a reply. Reagrds, Bill. Hi, thanks for for your help here. If possible, can you post a Pic of your Settings of the Tarot Gimbal Control? My Gimbal was working fine out of the box, but since i have it mounted and wired on my DJI Phantom it holds position for a few seconds, but then tilts out all the time when moving the Phantom just a little, not even speaking of flying it.
I played around with settings in both, Naza & Gimbal, but the behavior does not disappear. Can it be a bad wiring or soldering?
I am using the Batteries Balance plug to power the Gimbal, might this have been a bad idea? If you have any tip or idea would be sooo appreciated! Thanks i advance. I’m still filming on a road trip.
So I won’t be able to supply a pic soon. Actually I use the stock settings. They worked great for me. The only thing, if i remeber right, was setting the max allowed angle.
So I set it to be 90 degrees. This way I can turn it from horizontal to straight down. I did not update the firmware yet! I’ve heard you are now able to controll the gimbal with one cable less. But I really will need to look into that first. I get my power from the spare power cable, which you’ll find in the leg of the Phantom.
Are you sure all the wiring is setup correctly? I’ve come across quiet a few users which did not plugin the motors correctly to the board. Hello Ken My fpv sender, the gimbal and the GoPro get their power from the spare powercable which you’ll find in the Phantom’s leg. I use the balance port for a volt warner as a added security part. My flight time is still about 6+ minutes.
But I’ll always take it down at about 5 for security. Adding a additional battery would probably take flight time further time. But I have never checked. I’ve seen quiet a few pics of people using two LiPo’s to power the Phantom and get pretty good flight times with it. I’ll might try that sometime. But I’m pretty sure the behaviour of the Phantom won’t be as good anymore.
I also doubt the motors like the weight of a additional battery. I do not have the default paramaters here right now. I also needed a Win7 pc to acces the config menu, as there are still some troubles with win8 drivers. So I would need to get a win7 pc first. But I’m pretty sure you’ll find the parameters somewhere. Or maybe there’s a button to load the default parameters? Hard to tell without current access.
But take a look at the download from Tarot. I think there is a file with the default parameters included. So you just would need to load that one to get to a starting level. Hi, i have roll drift issuei connect everything good and its work good, but if when i use yaw (in flight and at home) the roll drift on the left and on the righti put i little level downside of goproand for lelelling correct the gimbal i make some yaw rotation to level the gimbal correctly. For this reason i connet the naza roll output on gimbal,but nothing happenmy mind think that this connection override the gyro of tarotcan you have the solution for this issue? Ps the tarot have the factor pid and the wires not does friction.bye.
When i power my gopro direct from the tarot board, the chips get hot and it seems it won’t boot so quick (sometimes not at all) as without powering the gopro. Does anybody experience the same? Is there a signal where i can get 5v from within the phantom? Also: my x1 channel did not work out of the box, i had to update the firmware of the remote (good thread here: ) And just to let you know: the newest tarot ships with a new plastic mount that puts the buffer rubbers aside the battery cage, so you don;t have to extend your landing gear as much. Hi, Anyone that might have a solution to my problem? I am running V1.4 software and have selected Position mode, hit enter and written settings to flash.
Every time I re-open the software it says I’m in position mode, but it’s behaving like it’s in rate mode. Also in the MODE 1 and MODE 2 boxes, the MODE 1 box is always darkened after I hook the gimbal up to the software, which makes me think that it’s stuck in rate mode. Anyone having a similar issue or know how to get the MODE 2 box selected? I’m running a Phantom with stock transmitter so can’t use a button to switch it over Thanks!
I do power the GoPro directly from the Tarot board. By doing so the board sometimes gets very hot. So if the gimbal is powered up with a attached GoPro on the ground it can get so hot that the gimbal won’t initiate if you change then batteries. I fix this by unpowering it and blowing 2-3 on the Tarot board which helps cooling it down so far that it will restart again when you attach a batterie. Up in the air there is enough blow to keep it cool enough. So I got a small problem, but as I don’t have to swap GoPro batteries this is not a real big problem for me. The question is if the heat will damage the board over time.
I use it in this setup for 4 month now and it still works. But as always, its up to you to decide if you want to do it or not.
Not sure if you want to add this note to your original instructions at the top or not:). I’ve solved my problem having the gimbal stuck in rate mode. If your running software version 1.3 or above, you may well need to remove the C to F1 wire. After upgrading it seemed that no matter what setting I tried in Tarot software or Naza software, the tilt would work in Rate mode.
After removing the F1 wire described above from Naza the gimbal can now be used in EITHER rate or positional mode. Well I finally go the Tarot operational with the stock TX that came with the Phantom.
I have T on Tarot card connected to top F2 in phantom and negative to negative. Did not hook up C. I have the Tarot set on Position, not Rate. Up until now, the camera would only look up and level at horizon; not down. I was really stuck! Finally I discovered you have to calibrate X1 in the Naza software. That did the trick!
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I have Tarot tilt parameters at +1 and -100 degrees so the camera limits at horizon but can look all the way down. Can’t wait to try it out I am using a MaikelsDesign lever on back of the TX. Works pretty well for $7.00. Regarding the motor “bounce back” effect; I found that you really have to be patient and play around with the PID settings.
Here’s link to PDF:. After loading up the camera with a Simensays housing and a ND filter plus additional wiring for an FPV; the Tilt motor would start bucking when I had it faced down towards the ground at close to limit position of 110 degrees. The solution was to go into the Motor configuration window and ramp up the Tilt power from 35 to 50% That did the trick. Merry Christmas everyone!!
Mathias, I fix it!! Have to calibrate sensors correctly. The thing is that I don’t know how to do it.
Have to put the gimbal sensor on a flat surface(connected to the software with the motor off) and then click calibrate sensors button, and that’s it. Here a video that found that show how to do it: The only thing is that i can’t set up the pitch control. I have a DJI Phantom, put the white cable from “P”of the gimbal board and the black cable from (-) from the gimbal board to the F2 of my phantom receiver or white and red NAZA box with the white cable down and the black up. I turn on the gimbal settings in the naza software and nothing. I install the pitch lever in the F2 control in the remote control, nothing happen. Any idea or missing.
I made a Y adapter. If that makes sense. I soldered two cables with plugs to the spare power cable.
So I can unplug the gimbal or fpv sender (atached with velcro) if i want to. The GoPro gets power from the Tarot gimbal. This makes some problems from time to time as the Tarot board gets hot when supplying power to the GoPro and it doesn’t get cooled by air. So sometimes when I change the LiPo the gimbal won’t start due of this. Detaching the LiPo and short blow on the board always cooled it down enough for me yet. The other option would be to get the power from the fpv sender.
Something I will test in the near future. But it really depends on the sender. Just make sure there’s not to much power or your GoPro could suffer. Maybe install a fuse if you want to be on the safe side. I’ve searched this forum and can’t seem to find a definitive answer, however, I’ve seen different wiring configurations for tilt control on the phantom some with 3 wires and others with 2 after the tarot 1.4 upgrade. I have wired it both ways but now have T wired to bottom F2 and (-) wired to top F2.
I have the gimbal turned on in the Naza software however the pitch control lever in the back of the stock TX is unresponsive despite appearing to be properly seated. Nothing in my Naza software seems to confirm that the lever is even installed. What am I doing wrong? Great blog and thanks for the wealth of knowledge here. I just got the Tarot V2 and Phantom 1.
I am using the Tarot XYZ software to see the board when USB is connected to the Gimbal Control Connector (and able to see orientation – the animation correlates with gimbal position), but it does NOT see the motor when USB is connected to the Motor Driver Connector for Motor Calibration. I think there is no voltage going to the motor. But the motor is able to relay the coordinates back to the software.
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Does this mean I have a bad board? ( I am using the 3cell lipo for power – and I am very careful and never mixed up +- polarity and there is only one Com Port to connect – but it does not).